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#1 Exeter

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Posted 29 May 2004 - 06:56 AM

hey just wondering abotu filters and induction kits, the relative pros and cons of each, and a range of prices on them
cheers

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Posted 29 May 2004 - 08:42 AM

hey just wondering abotu filters and induction kits, the relative pros and cons of each, and a range of prices on them
cheers

I'm currently using the TRD Sports Air Filter....purchased for about AUD $90 :D

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Posted 29 May 2004 - 10:20 AM

Panel Filter basically just improves the shift and high end feel slightly better and it is really for a slightly increase and filter economy. As for the induction kit make sure it has a cold air box which none of the current induction kit has for the IS200, since you do not want so many hot air sucking into your engine!...I would recommened a Tom's Foam filter since it is the most quality built and more value for money compare to TRD...TRD is a good filter, but you will have to change it once every 15,000 km.

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Posted 31 May 2004 - 03:28 AM

Matt the TRD airfilter is a reusable filter that is washed and reoiled when needed, much the same as a K&N, are you saying that it is not effective once it has done 15,000 even when washed and reoiled?

I also have a TRD airfilter and which seems good although it does not give the same noise that a K&N (pod & panel) filter gives. I cannot compare it to the factory filter though as it was installed when the car was purchased.

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Posted 31 May 2004 - 09:18 AM

hmm..whats is tthe approximate hp gain in each of them
when it comes down to it, i want to know whats the best bang for buck

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Posted 31 May 2004 - 10:14 AM

to be honest....dont bother with the pod filter or induction kit without an APexi heat shield. You will lose hp without it.

Drop in filter of your choice or Apexi induction kit & heat shield.

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Posted 31 May 2004 - 10:39 AM

Yup, you are right! Either Apex-i Induction with heatshield or Tom's Super Ram II IMO. Why does the TRD need to be oiled if it's paper? :(

Anyway, decision is your but since no one makes a induction with heatshield for the IS200 I said go for the Tom's Super Ram IS200 Filter! I got a Super Ram II myself!

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Posted 31 May 2004 - 01:29 PM

My TRD Airfilter has a mesh covering with 4 layers of cotton gauze - pretty much the same as a K&N. This was in the car when it was imported, but i am pretty sure that you can get these in N.Z. I was not aware of a Paper TRD filter and i wouldn't bother getting one if there was.

Can show you a photo of it if you want.

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Posted 31 May 2004 - 11:09 PM

how bout the trust filter? that any good?

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Posted 01 June 2004 - 01:29 AM

To be honest if you are putting in a sports panel filter i think that you would struggle to notice a difference between the decent brands, which would be very minimal even on a dyno. Differencecs would be in price and filter life.

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Posted 01 June 2004 - 02:18 AM

Even with a heatshield, there will be little difference
Its just a filter after all

If you get it tuned with an SAFC, wel thats a different story perhaps

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Posted 01 June 2004 - 02:28 AM

You will be able to tell a difference if you know your car! I heard some negatives about Trust so I no longer recommened and sell them...Tom's last longer and it is better in quality! And yes Heatshield does make a difference at low end!

Matt =)

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Posted 01 June 2004 - 10:24 AM

You will be able to tell a difference if you know your car! I heard some negatives about Trust so I no longer recommened and sell them...Tom's last longer and it is better in quality! And yes Heatshield does make a difference at low end!

Matt =)

Whaa??

What Negatives did you hear about the Trust??

is it anything serious??

if so, time for me to chuck it in the trash and get a new one.....??

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Posted 01 June 2004 - 11:28 AM

I heard from some guys they said Trust Filters can damage the throttle body if used for a long time...what I have heard but I have not yet seen any faults from it...if you are afraid get a Tom's otherwise I believe it should be fine.

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Posted 01 June 2004 - 03:19 PM

Pros and Cons for all types of filters.

Pods definitely get the most airflow through, as you loose the restriction
of the airbox, but should duct cool air in to get the best out of it.
(its of note, that by losing this restriction, you can sometimes lose low end torque)

Its not the trust filter so much as foam filters in general, the foam 'decays'
(for lack of a better word) and eventually starts to break up, this can cause
problems further down the line, but this is just a part of owning and maintaining.

Same with re-oilable filters such as the TRD(?) and K&N. if you don't clean them,
they clog up, if you don't oil them, they clog up faster, if you over oil them you
can damage your airflow meter. Its a balancing act.

Its just common sense, nothing lasts for ever, but how long it lasts is up to you :)

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