Es 300

[LEX]

This was designed for all of the ES 300 Owners to share thair experience. B)

[don_L]

Owned an 93 ES300 for a year or so. It's a nice driving car but I'm not a fan of the front wheel drive V6.The engine is slanted to the rear and the back head gasket tend to sit in oil, which eventually causes it to leak. If you have to do a roadworthy only to be told that you have an oil leak and it's going to cost you$2500 to have the gasket replaced!! Not fun.

Other than that, it was a really nice car but I like my LS better, but that's like comparing oranges and apples.

[LEX]

Owned an 93 ES300 for a year or so. It's a nice driving car but I'm not a fan of the front wheel drive V6.The engine is slanted to the rear and the back head gasket tend to sit in oil, which eventually causes it to leak. If you have to do a roadworthy only to be told that you have an oil leak and it's going to cost you$2500 to have the gasket replaced!! Not fun.

Other than that, it was a really nice car but I like my LS better, but that's like comparing oranges and apples.

Hi and Thanks for your comments,

How would you compare your LS with ES in terms of fuel economy and just as general comparison? Currently I have 23Liters! fuel consmption!!! and it's not fun ...

Regards,

LEX

[don_L]

The ES was pretty good on fuel all around, but on the highway they were pretty close to the same. Both had and onroad fuel comsumption of around 7 to 8 litres per 100 k.If I drive around town averaging 30 kph with lot of stop and go traffic then comsumtion on the LS is up around 18. If you average it all out I'm usually get 11 to 12 overall. If I keep my foot in it and thrash it pretty good around town it can easily go over 20litres/100k, but then we all have to realize that if we want to make power, it requires fuel and if you want to make more power, it takes even more fuel! The LS is fully capable of making power and all too willing to accept the fuel you feed it.

If you are getting those sort of economy figures, I've got a pretty good image of the driving style that drove it there! hehe! In fact, I'll bet I could drive mine to worse figures than yours.

So if you compare the ES to the LS on fuel, the ES was not as capable of producing power so the economy has to be better, but it is not as satisfying to drive if you are wanting a bit of grunt, you just have to save those horsepower moments for the exception instead of the rule.

Cheers

[LEX]

The ES was pretty good on fuel all around, but on the highway they were pretty close to the same. Both had and onroad fuel comsumption of around 7 to 8 litres per 100 k.If I drive around town averaging 30 kph with lot of stop and go traffic then comsumtion on the LS is up around 18. If you average it all out I'm usually get 11 to 12 overall. If I keep my foot in it and thrash it pretty good around town it can easily go over 20litres/100k, but then we all have to realize that if we want to make power, it requires fuel and if you want to make more power, it takes even more fuel! The LS is fully capable of making power and all too willing to accept the fuel you feed it.

If you are getting those sort of economy figures, I've got a pretty good image of the driving style that drove it there! hehe! In fact, I'll bet I could drive mine to worse figures than yours.

So if you compare the ES to the LS on fuel, the ES was not as capable of producing power so the economy has to be better, but it is not as satisfying to drive if you are wanting a bit of grunt, you just have to save those horsepower moments for the exception instead of the rule.

Cheers

Great! I have an Idea, but still it's a bit wierd for me to drive like an old Grandpa all the time as if I will drive my normal style I would always be over 20L/100km which is pitty as ussualy I fill the tank and by the end of the day it's already around 100k so another day or two and you already for another 70L tank!!! this is CRAZY! I used to drive 3.0L Magna and the average consumption was around 15L/100k and even if I was driving lke a mad with A/C on all the time it would give me then around 18L/100k I am just afraid to this what the consamption is going to be if I am going to:

- Turn the Over Drive ON

- Use A/C

- Driving NOT like a Grandpa (not 30km/ph)

consamption is going to be what? 30L/100km which is prety mach will give me a fll tank (70L!!!) on 200km?!!!!

this is disaster!!! Is there any way of improving fuel consamption? apart from the normal stuff ( no AC, don't hold braks ...)

Please advise.

Kind regards,

Alex (Lex)

[don_L]

- Turn the Over Drive ON

Overdrive will actually gain fuel economy as it allows the engine to turn less revs meaning less fuel and air.

- Use A/C

A/C consumes power on any car and power requires fuel. It's a luxury that has to be purchased.

- Driving NOT like a Grandpa (not 30km/ph)

Driving with a 30k/ph average mean that you are doing a lot of stop and go. Could mean 100k for 10 minutes and then bumper to bumper stop and go traffic, ripping around cars for 50 minutes which will eat up fuel like a vengence. Not exactly grandpa stuff. You have only traveled 30 ks but may use 8 liters during that hour, (24l/100ks)as compared to driving 100kph continuously for an hour which will use the same 8 litres but you have traveled 100 Ks.

consamption is going to be what? 30L/100km which is prety mach will give me a fll tank (70L!!!) on 200km?!!!!

To be able to get 30L/100km you would have to be giving it a pretty hefty floggin all the time in a start stop driving senerio.

this is disaster!!! Is there any way of improving fuel consamption? apart from the normal stuff ( no AC, don't hold braks ...)

The only answer to economy is smoothing out your driving habits. If your the type that likes jack rabbiting around, a well geared 4 or 6 cyl light weight car is possibly the go for you. But if you want the luxury of a great riding car that has the power to perform as well, you just have to learn how to drive it to match your wallet!!! Weight+ drag + required power, pretty well dictates fuel requirements.

For instance, I just filled my car up, drove to melbourne and back, (about 160k's) drove around town yesterday for about an hour, even did a couple of pretty good tire smoking burn outs (with the VSC off) and just had a look at the trip computer which said that I have averaged 11L/100k's so far on this tank of fuel. I can live with that. :P

[LEX]

Great! Thanks a lot!

I will do the test this weekend and will share the results.

I will drive with OD off with no speeding and no AC

Results to be posted next week

Regards,

Lex