Twin Turbo/non Turbo

[Hank Scorpio]

I will be getting a new car soon and have narrowed it down to two options, one being the Toyota Aristo. I have found one in pearl white with leather seats, sunroof and the twin turbo engine, seems pretty schmick. However I was wondering if the GS300 ever came with the twin turbo engine or because it was made for the American market did it only come with the non turbo 3 Litre 6? I really like the car but if I could find a "Lexus" for a similar price I think I would like that.

Thanks for any help.

[jcpv]

The gs300 2jzgte is saw is pearl white at kamikaze motors > ?? is it ?

[Hank Scorpio]

I'm guessing that was a question?

a) The car I was referring to was not a GS300 but an Aristo.

B) No it wasn't found at Kamikaze Motors.

[jcpv]

Comon' gs300 and aristo is the same thing. just the name of the brand for toyota and lexus.

which type are you talkin about ?? Aristo the 3.0q (n/a), 3.0v(gte)(non-vvti) ?? or jzs160 (n/a) or jzs161(gte)(vvti) ??

a) The car I was referring to was not a GS300 but an Aristo. <_<

[Hank Scorpio]

Thats cool man.

I was referring to the 2JZ-GTE. I have just never seen a Lexus badged GS300 with the 2JZ-GTE, I have only seen them with the non-turbo 2JZ-GE.

My question is/was are you able to buy a Lexus badged GS300 with a 2JZ-GTE engine or did only the Toyota badged Aristo's come with that engine (due to the American market).

And if you can get an actual GS300 with the twin turbo engine would I be right in assuming they are very rare and probably more expensive then their Toyota counterparts?

I think that made sense... haha!

[jcpv]

I don't think the lexus gs300 comes with a 2jzgte.. only the 2jzge. only the Toyota Aristo has the 2jzgte. i wanna swap my gs300 (2jzge) to the 2jzgte. Really an underdog. lolz. Its round $9000 swapping the engine since the chassis are the same which is the jzs160 and 161. It includes gearbox, fitment and etc. except tuning. Quite expensive huh.

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Thats cool man.

I was referring to the 2JZ-GTE. I have just never seen a Lexus badged GS300 with the 2JZ-GTE, I have only seen them with the non-turbo 2JZ-GE.

My question is/was are you able to buy a Lexus badged GS300 with a 2JZ-GTE engine or did only the Toyota badged Aristo's come with that engine (due to the American market).

And if you can get an actual GS300 with the twin turbo engine would I be right in assuming they are very rare and probably more expensive then their Toyota counterparts?

I think that made sense... haha!

[Hank Scorpio]

Yeah it is, for that sort of money you may aswell just go buy a turbo aristo. Can you not just turbo charge your engine without doing a complete engine swap? Surely there wouldn't need to be TOO much done to your current engine that it won't blow your budget.

From my research looking to buy myself an Aristo they are a c*nt of a vehicle to shop for, particularly for a fussy person like me. Finding a clean example with leather and s sunroof is hard to find at a decent price. Then if I want it to not be white and have relatively low kms, ha dreaming!

GS300's and Aristo's are certainly around but not enough to make it easy to find a good example at a decent price.

[jcpv]

Yes of cuz you can change with the current engine. Since you're going to turbocharge it many stuffs has to change example piston, camshaft, ecu, valve spring, piping, Gearbox if needed [(2jzge 5 speed transmission, 2jzgte 4 speed transmission)], and etc. These items could easily reach $10k with ease.

Not changing these stuffs will make you drive uncomfortably in the end it will be in the garage sitting for ages.

I might be wrong, best thing bring it to tuner who really can tunes 2jzgte.

Can you not just turbo charge your engine without doing a complete engine swap? Surely there wouldn't need to be TOO much done to your current engine that it won't blow your budget.

[ant]

hm i just skim read a lot of this, but it is a little confusing, so il say what i know from the top of my head..

There's the 1st Generation JZS147 Lexus GS300. This car was sold in America as a non-turbo 2JZ-GE. It was sold in its home land of Japan as the Toyota Aristo and i believe came as both turbo and non turbo 2JZ-GTE and 2JZ-GE. i think they were made from about 92ish - 97ish? These are available as imports from Japan, hence any coming in from Japan are Toyota Aristos though some have had different badges put on them. Most that are imported ae 2JZ-GTE because people like the turbo engine.

Then there's the JZS160/161 model Lexus GS300, the 2nd Generation. This was sold in America and in Australia as a Lexus GS300, and in Japan as a Toyota Aristo. Again, in the overseas markets this came with a non turbo 2JZ-GE engine but with VVT-i. In japan it came as turbo and non turbo versions, though i believe they were all Auto from factory. These models of Aristo cannot be imported into Australia since they were sold here domestically, hence you need to do an engine conversion to get a 2JZ-GTE version. they were sold from 98-00, then a face-lifted model with updated taillights and grille came out and was produced from 01-04

You can do engine swaps by using a 2JZ-GTE VVT-i front cut from a Japanese Aristo and putting it into the GS300 but some dash lights etc come up unless you go the whole hog with wiring harnesses and so on.

An NA-T conversion is done alot in america, both on Aristos and on things like supras. Look on clubna-t.com for some info. Doing an NA-T conversion is a good way to get about 300rwhp from the car with the turbo, injectors, ecu, exhaust, and front mount. Any mroe than this required serious engine work, and it would be better to start with a 2JZ-GTE engine for building, at least the head since it is better.

Both of these turboing options are pretty expensive though, like close to 10K.