frylai Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 Ok alot of members recently have asked me to get springs to lower their Altezza...But the question really is what kind of springs do they go for??? Do they want to go for looks? Performance? or simply just I NEED TO LOWER MY GOD DAMN CAR!!! Ok I have seen or heard of members had these springs on their rides... Kings - 4ROLLN, Jetezza, Naroka Eibach - SSML, Lextcy Tanabe - Jase Lsportline - Me!!! Other than that I m not sure who else has what??? anyway give us a feedback on your springs and performance and let others know what its like!!! Matt :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franco Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 I have Apexi N1 Coilovers. I'm not much of a critic, not having driven anyone else's Altezza, but I can tell you that the ride is firm, real firm. In terms of comfort, there is some but not alot. I tend to avoid severe road bumps and potholes wherever possibe. Being a motorcyclist this comes natural anyway. In terms of handling, there aren't many other 4 wheeled vehicles around here which can touch it! Let's say that high speed cornering and driving through twisty roads is a real pleasure... I'm in the process of having the rear rubber bushes replaced with uerothene (sp?) ones, as the old ones are shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 You're lucky franco, with the Apexi N1 Coilovers come in STANDARD haha I got some TANABE CVSquare installed a week or 2 ago. According to factory specs, F -43mm, 6.5kg/mm R -33mm, 5.5kg/mm is what the springs give you. I'm using the springs with standard Altezza shocks (they are the front are Tokico shocks, don't know about the rear). Performance has definitly increased, as the lower the car, the lower the center of gravity, and less the body roll (still a little of cuz..!). The rear slides a little more in corners but i think its because I drive a little faster than before with the springs in now haha Comfort? Its great, way less harsh than Coilovers and feels like standard. But you can tell that there is something done to the suspension. In the long run, I would get aftermarket shocks too, as lowering springs cause standard shocks more stress. Well, i guess if you are just after the look, get some springs. If you are not lookin too deeply into the performance side of things, get lowering springs with aftermarket shocks. And for best performace, get some Coilovers! Hope this helps the members who are considering of lowering their ride! Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frylai Posted February 4, 2004 Author Share Posted February 4, 2004 You're lucky franco, with the Apexi N1 Coilovers come in STANDARD hahaI got some TANABE CVSquare installed a week or 2 ago. According to factory specs, F -43mm, 6.5kg/mm R -33mm, 5.5kg/mm is what the springs give you. I'm using the springs with standard Altezza shocks (they are the front are Tokico shocks, don't know about the rear). Performance has definitly increased, as the lower the car, the lower the center of gravity, and less the body roll (still a little of cuz..!). The rear slides a little more in corners but i think its because I drive a little faster than before with the springs in now haha Comfort? Its great, way less harsh than Coilovers and feels like standard. But you can tell that there is something done to the suspension. In the long run, I would get aftermarket shocks too, as lowering springs cause standard shocks more stress. Well, i guess if you are just after the look, get some springs. If you are not lookin too deeply into the performance side of things, get lowering springs with aftermarket shocks. And for best performace, get some Coilovers! Hope this helps the members who are considering of lowering their ride! Jason hahaha, thanks alot Jase I know i have enjoyed the ride on your car last night :D Matt :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4ROLLN Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 4ROLLN's sitting on King srprings with a 30-35 mm drop I think, may have ended up with a 40mm drop somehow, looks good, the ride is reasonable comfortable but the rear end is a bit dodgy on heavy cornering an driven hard. I've actually found it better to roll 4 up as going up the kaimai ranges over the holidays and going quick around corners was pretty wicked with four people, it handled awesome for some reason, but with 2 and without the weight in the rear it bounces around a bit which could be dangerous when hitting big bumps on passing lanes on a bend "trust me". Overall for bang for buck they are pretty good, im happy with them, but may go for adjustables in the future if i ever get the money for some!!!!!!!!! Dont get me wrong though they are pretty safe to drive with and corning aint to bad overall, I just mean if you are really pushing it, it can feel a bit dodgy, but in saying that it hasnt stop me yet from corning hard iwhen I feel like it!!! ..........4ROLLN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?UESTLOVE Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 I have the Eibach, but just purchased some Tein Flex Coilovers. The eibachs are good, in terms of comfort, but not low enough, and still abit too soft for my liking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneyes Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Haydn, what shocks are on the rear? New, stiffer adjustables when you fitted the King springs? It sounds like lack of rebound control with the stiffer springs. (this calls for a day on Taupo Track so we can try each other's cars.... ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4ROLLN Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 as far as I know they are standard shocks, but we have a sneeking idea that they arnt because the car sits lower than its supposed to with the lowering springs but im happy with that, your probaly right "greeneyes"but it hasnt wooried me enough to do something about it. Just a good reason to save up for some adjustables for a 100 years time!!! we'll see what happens :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo tezza Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 I've got Bilstein adjustables with coilovers. They are fairly stiff, but I wouldn't say harsh. More like sporty. I can throw it into a corner and know i'll always come out the other side. Think the tyres help out aswell. Ride height is set at about 25-30mm lower then normal at the moment. I'll drop it right down for the South Island 4 & Rotary Nationals next month. :D They came with the car when I bought it. Lucky me. B) Corey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frylai Posted February 4, 2004 Author Share Posted February 4, 2004 (edited) I m running on Lsportline (Made By Eibach) and I m getting some Bilteins HD Shocks soon before winter I will say, my car has got far too many little problem to get stuff like that right now...anyway it lowered the car by 35mm from factory...but only around 17mm for the front when I actually measure it...but 35mm spot on on the rear!!! Matt :) Edited February 4, 2004 by LsportlineIS300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkgs300 Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 I have Apexi WS coilovers, and these are great. Good handling and good comfort. Springs ... errr. some of my IS200 friends in Europe are using V-Maxx springs, and they like them :lol:. Any V-Maxx users NZ <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frylai Posted February 4, 2004 Author Share Posted February 4, 2004 I have Apexi WS coilovers, and these are great. Good handling and good comfort.Springs ... errr. some of my IS200 friends in Europe are using V-Maxx springs, and they like them :lol:. Any V-Maxx users NZ <_< Yeah I heard pretty good review on these V-Maxx in the Europe Forum, I heard they feel really like Eibach, can bearly tell the difference, well maybe the price!!! they do make the springs for the IS200 and RX300.... Matt :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frylai Posted February 7, 2004 Author Share Posted February 7, 2004 Ok David also got Tanabes now...it's hard to obtain springs other than Kings here, but they are heat formed so that are a piece of *BLEEP*... Matt :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkgs300 Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 Kings are heat formed so that are a piece of *BLEEP*...Matt :) Heat formed springs? ;) These type of springs are not lasting long. Heat formed springs are not holding its spring charge, so they will drop the car lower and lower No problem though if you think that your car is not lowered enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSML Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 Hi guys: I got my Eibach pro kit springs for ~ 3 months, done ~4500Km, like many others's comments. handling has improved, not too stiff for me. But it definetely much more comfy than my friend's Tein coilover. the only part I dont like= rear end didnt go down far enough. but much better than factory's huge gap. SSML Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneyes Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 Aren't all springs heat formed? Isn't that how they temper the steel after they have shaped it? Maybe I'll take a tour of Kings, they're not too far away. keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frylai Posted February 18, 2004 Author Share Posted February 18, 2004 It dosent matter if they are heatformed or not, the point is that Kings will sag while other springs like Eibach and TRD won't, I think when we say heatformed that it is fully heatformed to shaped the form not just melting the steel. Matt :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin_S Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Trd/Potenza Spring/strut setup-wouldn't change a thing-even with a bootload of records the rear end doess't "load up" and bounce like my previous Altezza that was on King springs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4ROLLN Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 hey stop hassling my King springs. At least If I ever get a girl in the back of my car, im gonna have a better time than you guys in your cars with my bouncy springs!! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frylai Posted February 18, 2004 Author Share Posted February 18, 2004 hey stop hassling my King springs.At least If I ever get a girl in the back of my car, im gonna have a better time than you guys in your cars with my bouncy springs!! :D aite Hayden, time to move on!!! get some proper springs.....hahaha Matt :) PS - forgive me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franco Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 AAARRRRGGGGHHH ! :o I took my car into the dealer yesterday to have the rubber bushes replaced with firmer polyurethene ones. Got a call last nite saying that their garage replaced all the bushes (as agreed) but found that my front right shock is "shot". So they are going to replace "all" of my suspension with some "good stuff". Hmmmm. Am going down to sort it out. If what they say is true, I want to know what they consider is good stuff, AND get my orginal coilovers back. If the front right was shot, I think they can be repaired/ reconditioned? Being a newbie with this type of thing, anyone got any advice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AltezzaNZ Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 At least If I ever get a girl in the back of my car I like it... at least if I.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin_S Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 :D good call!! B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoon Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 AAARRRRGGGGHHH ! :o I took my car into the dealer yesterday to have the rubber bushes replaced with firmer polyurethene ones. Got a call last nite saying that their garage replaced all the bushes (as agreed) but found that my front right shock is "shot". So they are going to replace "all" of my suspension with some "good stuff". Hmmmm. Am going down to sort it out. If what they say is true, I want to know what they consider is good stuff, AND get my orginal coilovers back. If the front right was shot, I think they can be repaired/ reconditioned? Being a newbie with this type of thing, anyone got any advice? Hi Franco what brand are your coil overs? make sure you get them back. where in NZ are you. you should give them to Autolign in auckland to look at, they are the professionals when it comes to rebuilding suspension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franco Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Hey Hoon They are Apexi N1 coilovers. Basically they were installed by the previous (Japanese) owner. I don't think they are very common here in NZ. I believe they can be rebuilt, tho I just need to understand who would be the best option to do the work. In the meantime, I have instructed the dealer/garage to go ahead with the susp replacement, which they claim is going to cost $2500, though they still couldn't tell me what they are replacing it with yet. Good news is that I've made sure they will give me back my original stuff, so if it is stuffed and is rebuildable at least I have the option. Sweet, thanks for the PM, I will give you a holler once I know more. cher cher, franco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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