BLK ISF

100% agree, unless everyone goes on the same dyno as in a dyno day, comparing is hard. I always look at my before and after's. I was watching this space as i got mine tuned same place, just got headers like Ozzy too so a similar path and id expect similar numbers / gains so takes away the guesswork :-) Still looking around for other potential additional tuners, just to see whats out there. CPI pop up now and then on searches for a Sydney tuner. Ive contacted several who have posted good gains with AMG, Audi and the like but im met with the usual "unfortunately we have nothing for your car" which is a shame. The learning curve would be great if we had more tuning options for our cars. Ps Mine shows crazy torque figures too, bit embarassing to show mates when they ask as its very high. I wish it had that kind of torque lol.

Thx for sharing your results. Gives me more insight as to what way ill go with my tune when im ready. Approx 290kw seems to be his mark for ISF's with E/H/I, the usual mods. Curve does look good, smooth with alot top end which i expected with the PPE's. I actually would of thought though that the headers would have taken up the majority of the gains with the touch up tune the rest but it seems the other way around. i.e. 9kw headers and 13.6kw from the tune. I know its only my butt dyno at this stage but i feel like the headers has really opened up the ISF, more power everywhere. I had his cat mod flange done as well so now thats gone with the headers its possible my header gains will be even less :-( but im sure if tuned from his as well, id be expecting the 290 mark as well.

Looking forward to your results, the before and afters. Im in a similar position to you, already tuned but pre headers. Would be curious what gains can be had for a touch up retune vs 1st time tune which i was happy with mine. Im looking at either local like Autowerks given they did my first tune, RR (off the shelf tune but with tuned intake) or not bother and get a new flat bottom CF wheel lol. First world problems i know but damn those wheels look good :-)

Yeah price alone sticking local is the way to go especially as i have tuned with them before. If i hadnt, it would be a different story as everyone charges alot up front for their initial tune. Thanks for the reply, more to think about.

Sorry to the OP, not trying to hijack the thread but figured my question is tuning related. In short, ive got a catback exhaust, k&N insert, HPS intake hose and have had it locally tuned. Was happy with everything. Each mod seems to play their part and have dyno numbers inbetween a few of the mods to see the differences. Just recently fitted ceramic coated PPE headers and as its a substantial mod, im looking to tune it again for the most power i can have and to ensure all the ratios, fuel etc are spot on given there would be more air, timing etc to play with. Been deliberating 2 options: 1. Go back to the local tuner who did mine the first time around. About $500 give or take for a retune given ive already paid the most expensive part up front for the initial tune 2. Been looking at RR tuned intake option. Im assuming landed, after fittment etc it might be about $1500ish For those who have gone down either path, is the extra outlay worth it going to RR? Their site indicates the intake alone does not do much but with headers and mods i know have, its good for about 15hp and also i get their tune. I dont know if their tune is a generic one to the mods i have or specific based on the file i send them from the OBD tool so they configure something to match my engines parameters etc. I havent asked RR yet. Im sure their intake design and the MAF being a bit bigger will mean its a bit louder (which is always nice) but is it worth the extra 1k. I know i wont supercharge, turbo charge or carry out any further engine mods as i dont think there is much options out there for me now so i know this should be my final tune. In hindsight i would not have tuned it the first time but hindsight is great. I never thought i was going to get headers but did. Also the fact the car does have a tune (prior to headers) im assuming the tune wont be as comprehensive regardless who i go to given it is somewhat tuned vs not at all. Welcome to any opinions, thanks.

Awesome news mate. Now that’s the kind of intake we all love. Keen to see how it goes as it’s kind of unchartered territory (not commonly done) vs the supercharger route. I’m sure you'll get some good gains with a good tune as well. What kind of boost are you planning to run?

Saw the car on FB. I love my PPE's but can only imagine how the Novel must sound. Again good luck with the sale and enjoy your new ride :-)

Ive driven with mine fitted for exactly 1 month now and its a daily drive. Here is what was removed, not exactly inspiring to see and looks very restrictive vs the PPE's My first impressions when i drove out of the workshop was holy crap, its much louder than expected. Low revs and idle only an enthusiast would know (my wife hasnt noticed yet lol) however build the revs up, not even WOT, just normal accelerating and it sounds awesome. That raspy V8 note like a modified C63 etc. So for sound its chalk and cheese and much louder As Ozzy has stated, it revs out much quicker. The car feels like its breathing alot better, on start up i can hear the induction more as well. I was thinking various things like spark plugs, ignition, tune and all sorts of things as i felt there was a slight hesitation occasionally when i floored mine, but thats not the case anymore. It never hesitates, floor it and its instant to the lowest gear possible. Even had friends who are not car enthusiasts but have been in my car many times who have commented, what have you done to your car now (noise and acceleration). To put it in comparison, going from stock to a catback exhaust, first you notice the sound (louder always feels faster but it truly did feel quicker). Well to me, going from stock to a catback didnt make as much impact vs going from catback to headers as well. Night and day is a big call, id think of a supercharger as night and day but yes its definitely one of the best mods you could do to your ISF. The sound alone is incredible and it definitely turns heads on downshifts (can be heard a distance away). As for smell, i was looking into the cats as i was sure id need them based on comments from various people including many on the US forums as everyone seems to have headers there. I was led to believe the smell would be that strong, it would be impossible to drive without my clothes stinking or all windows etc must be up. I have not found that to be the case. Yes i do smell it occasionly but its certainly not overpowering and i drive it a few hours daily form work and back and around and its probably only a few minutes i can smell it at idle at the lights if that. Some days i dont smell it. I dont let it idle for a long time which probably helps, i prefer to drive slow to help it warm up etc. So im no rush to pay approx 1k for hi flow cats to get of a smell i hardly notice and to restrict it more. I paid 1.8k for my catback and for the PPE's it was 2.7k and $880 for the install (this will vary pending who you take it too). So 1.8k vs almost 3.6k. Double the price..... Well given what mods are available for our cars, i couldnt say its a mod that makes double the impact of my catback but i will admit it makes the car much more enjoyable to drive, sounds great so for me no regrets (even though i suspected my OEM headers had a gasket issue etc as im sure i heard a ticking noise, well documented in the US forums as OEM header cracks etc) however in my case my OEM headers / gaskets etc was all good. I am still deliberating on the tune, will eventually get it but in no rush, more to ensure my fueling, air ratios etc are all good. Few more tuning options out there now but could go with my previous tuner who i got decent results with before and being the same dyno, ill have a good comparison of before and after to see true gains from headers alone and then headers with a tune. When i do ill definitely post up results so everyone can see before and afters and weigh up for themselves ifs a mod they might consider.

Looked at possibly having to get new shim kit but reused what i had. Mine has never squealed but also changed rotors at the same time. Not sure if the bedding process with that would make a difference, maybe some of the more cluey members could chime in on that. My OEM pads would squeal alot especially slowing down like you mentioned but they were worn so to be expected.

Agreed. Had them on my car for a while now and no complaints at all. Little dust and no squealing etc. Great for street use

Paid $160 from Brakes Direct, free shipping Aust wide. Im sure they are still the same price i think.

Especially with headers. What an exhilarating noise :-)

Bored so took a few pics of the ISF the other day. Have to admit still impressed with how the ceramic coating turned out. Its my daily ride, gets driven in the rain and all sorts of conditions and in these pics, i hadnt had the chance to wash the car in several weeks, possibly longer yet it still has that gloss which it didnt have prior to the Ceramic coating (glossier in the flesh and was overcast this day yet still shiny enough, despite no wash) Much easier to clean and dirt etc doesnt stick to the car as much as before.

Yeah ive seen that, sounds awesome. The famous "take it easy" phrase by the drivers mate lol. Im sure that would have to be headers but straight pipes or muffler deletes or something additional as it sounds quite loud. Great but loud :-)

Agreed, definitely for sale. Didnt see anyone around at the time but the one on show at Liverpool is all about marketing, just raising awareness with the general public that before anyone lays down their cash on a BMW, AMG etc, that Lexus has something to offer as well. Im sure many arent even aware the car exists. Many still dont even know that the ISF, GSF, RCF exists etc. Im sure the average Joe thinks its a typical 4cyl.

Awesome colour but id be too scared to drive with that colour. Imagine the cost and complications of a respray or touch up lol. I could only imagine how good it looked in the flesh though under the light. Yeah ive seen a few on carsales for about 180k, few used ones. As exotic as they look, i wish they offered some more poke. If anyone upgraded, im sure we'd want the sensation of upgrading in all aspects, not just looks, creature comforts etc.

Yeah they do sound great for stock. Theres a white one parked in the middle of Liverpool Westfield amongst 2 other Lexus cars on display. Definitely stands out with its styling

As drooling as that monster looks, the rendered designs always turn out different to production. What a beast and finally some decent go to match the show. 4L tiwn turbo like the Germans will be great and provide a great platform for the aftermarket scene, much better scope for modifications if you want. Just hope they dont water it down and make it look like a boring Camry with a wing if you get my drift so suit the conservative masses lol

Well I have to admit it’s been a roller coaster ride with the PPE saga, I’m sure all involved will have to admit it. Then when they finally landed and we saw the light at the end of the tunnel however there was a slight delay with paperwork etc. We just couldn’t win. In saying that, when they finally got clearance from customs, it was full steam ahead. Thanks Danny for delivering mine to the installer for me and going out of your way to help me get them installed, just scraping through for this year. You’ve been more than helpful once the headers landed so appreciate your efforts to help alleviate some of the prior pain points. Won’t bother with a write up as a few others have shared their experiences but WOW, PPE really transform the car. More so than expected. Haven’t put the car back on the dyno as this year is practically over but I’ll look at getting a retune next year, same place, same dyno etc. so trying to keep conditions the same so I can see the HP difference with headers and then finally all tuned. As we know all dyno's are different but I’ll be able to see before and after on the same dyno which might interest some. Ps I thought it was loud before with the Xforce and it turned heads on downshifts etc. but now its ridiculously loud (as I’ve told others, maybe I’m getting old). I can now just stab the accelerator and scare pedestrians. I know I shouldn’t but it does make me laugh just a little. Mid to top feels stronger, kick down in auto mode feels quicker and it goes to the lowest gear (use to sometimes downshift in stages or slight hesitation). As for the smell, it’s not that bad at all being cat less. Might get hi flow ones early next year, let’s see.

A rare sight indeed, well for Sydney anyway :-). Nice rides gentlemen

Sounds like it was an eventful evening. I know what you mean about boosted cars, small ticking timebomb engines, highly stressed but yes they can be very quick with big boost. I had a pretty quick WRX, forged internals, high boost, water spray, exhaust, computer, bigger injectors, bigger turbo etc. There is more scope with forced induction to really push big numbers but with N/A like our cars the mods are limited. Still love the ride of the ISF though over my WRX. Our cars sound great and i have more faith in pushing it harder knowing something wont bang or snap under the bonnet. I never had that confidence with my WRX especially after owning it for so long. Some of those 4cyl are very quick like Evo's you mentioned. Even CLA45's stock are low 4's, quite quick. Nice grudge match with that Audi. Even though our cars are quoted anywhere from 4.7-4.9, im sure with your mods you would be a low 4 as well so quite close to the Audi's quoted figures. Any Tesla's there to spice things up. I can only imagine when those Roadsters reach our streets. 8sec quarters and under 2 seconds for the 0-100 or some kind of insane figures like that.

Always good to hear non bias reviews of other products, thanks for the share. I use a foam lance so not sure if the Nanolicious can be used for that. I do like Bowdens Wheely clean. Leaves that infamous purple after result to show the spray reacting with brake dust, dirt and the like. Minimal effort required, just spray on and water spray off. Sure for stubborn or very dirty wheels some agitation might be required but as i wash my car weekly, i find it reasonbly clean with minimal physical effort of scrubbing etc I like buying bulk but with supercheap its either 500ml or 20L (um a bit too much bulk for me lol). Been trying to find 5L without any luck so been using a mothers branded product. Not bad but not as good as the Bowden. For washing my car with the lance ive used the Chemical guys Honeydew foam which wasnt bad but currently using Autobrite Magifoam which is concentrated and gets really thick thuds. Car has been ceramic coated so i use a blower after that to dry the car with a plush Concours tempest drying towel for remaining wet spots i may have missed with the blower. Once i got the ceramic coating done, the water beads off with the blower and is great on the grill etc where you just cant get a drying towel / chamois too.

When i got mine done about 1 year ago, i called around. Parramatta Lexus quoted $620 so assume Chatswood would be similar if not the same??? Few other independant workshops quoted me $450 to $530ish. The condition of my oil at about 80000kms from memory was better than expected (no issues). Did it more for peace of mind and a worthwhile investment like others have mentioned :-)

Catless? Thats my dilema when my PPE Headers arrive. Some say hardly smells, others say the smell will almost knock you out lol. About an extra 800-1k to fit some based on the few places ive called around :-( Looks good though :-)

Hey i like the plate. They should of named it that from the start, would of minimised alot of confusion with people thinking its a 4cyl, IS250 etc.