FrankyX Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 I know it's a little off the IS250 topic, but... CT200H - Lexus Au Website Not sure how long this has on the Lexus AU website; but I stumbled across it tonight and from first look; I don't like it. For many reasons... - Front Wheel Drive - ahh duh. Massive backward step and puts the BMW 1 series even further ahead in the compact car market. - Wheels. They look like the the current IS Sports Luxury that have been around for years. They could have seriously raised the bar here... but no. Easy fix though - non standard. - Rear end design. Looks like a mini van. Not a fan; but the rest of the design is quite nice. - Interior / dash. Sure, I'm an IS driver and I love my car; but you won't see me step into this from my IS. May just have to wait till the 2012 IS. I know it sounds like i'm quite negative, but I would seriously consider buying a Lexus Hybrid given things were stepping in the right direction. I feel that not all is the case with the new CT200H. Available within 12 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k2sty1 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 dont like it, period looks like a mini van, like the hatchback 1 series the front looks hectic tho, but the rear is kinda meh~ and wheres the exhaust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldc Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Good for youngsters south of 20 y.o imo. I don't think the Lexus class exist here.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintfunni Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Front looks nice, but the 1st thing that came to mind when I saw the rear was that it looked like the Mazda 3 hatch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dis-lex-sic Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 http://au.lexusownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9133 Its not off topic in the general section...there are some hi res shot there too. Australian launch is in Feb 2011. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilv1004s Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 FWD Lexus? might as well rebadge it as a toyota now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapphire Cam Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Heavily 'photo-shopped' images, so a little bit hard to tell. Exterior styling just looks like "yet another Jap-hatch", and FWD - that's just laziness on Lexus's part. I believe the excuse is because it was too hard (or expensive) to change the Prius hybrid drivetrain from a FWD to RWD. I really don't like driving FWD cars, (always owned RWD or 4WD) so it's almost written it off for me. When Id heard about the Lexus hatch, I thought it might've been an AWD or RWD and that would have me interested, but FWD - nope. Mind you, the interior looks nice, but you can see they're trying to make it look European, especially the 'mirror to mirror' straight lines across the dash - very BMW and very Audi, as well as the elevated nav-screen - looks like BMW's iDrive. But to the opposite of that, is what i love about the IS250 interior - elegant in its simplicity. The European sedans usually over-complicate their interiors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankyX Posted May 20, 2010 Author Share Posted May 20, 2010 No doubt this will be at the Sydney Motor Show in October (14-24th) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldc Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 I can see Queen St Repairs work on this car, with 22". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantis Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 FWD Lexus? might as well rebadge it as a toyota now Are you forgetting the ES300 that quickly? Anyway, this is just a Corolla with a new coat of paint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankyX Posted May 22, 2010 Author Share Posted May 22, 2010 After a few days of posting and looking at the images; I still can't get my head around that this would come from Lexus. It's weak and I think they've rushed into getting this in the market to compete with BMW & VW compact markets. From this, I think the VW will still win hands down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFist Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 The FWD is a step backwards for Lexus on this one. The navigation looks like it's the one from the RX which uses that track ball like to control - Similar to the I-drive in BMW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00100100 Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 FWD Lexus? might as well rebadge it as a toyota now Disappointing!! I like the dash though .. looks complicated .. definitly like :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dis-lex-sic Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 The navigation looks like it's the one from the RX which uses that track ball like to control - Similar to the I-drive in BMW. Yes it is the Lexus remote touch like the RX....and its more like a mouse than a trackball. Its nothing like iDrive....it works lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dis-lex-sic Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 I just got a brochure for this car. I was anti at first but the more I find out about it the more bits I find I like. There are bits that this car has that are lacking in the current IS.....next gen IS should be great going by this car. Love the stitched leather console & dash in the CT200h. Only LS600hL also has this. Dash background is blue when being eco & red when being sporty. I've also got an LF-A brochure and a hard cover book on the LF-A that is detailed. I'll bring them to the next meet if anyone's interested in having a look as they aren't available from dealerships yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircon Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 There are bits that this car has that are lacking in the current IS Like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldc Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 If it's hard leather, that would be one lol Don't like soft leather in the IS. Prefer the Euro Accord leather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dis-lex-sic Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 The marketing for this car is different to other Lexus http://www.lexusdarkride.com/?s_ocid=Pursuit:0510:CTA1:CThSite&cid=Pursuit:0510:CTA1:CThSite#dark-ride What do you guys think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilv1004s Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 very different. marketing. Good work for lexus for trying somthing different still cant get over the fact it's a Front wheel drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldc Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 It's a Hybrid la, no need for RWD...no need for HP or anything like that lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankyX Posted May 27, 2010 Author Share Posted May 27, 2010 It's a Hybrid la, no need for RWD...no need for HP or anything like that lol No need for RWD???? U kidding! That's what makes the Lexus brand stand out amongst the others. It's not only about power, but corner handling and in the wet. I hate FWD; but each to their own ay. I'll still be keen on the next gen IS. Bring it on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldc Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 I mean if i were in the market to get one of these, i would get it for the fuel economy more than anything else. I drive 80 km/hr on M5 so what does that say lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k2sty1 Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 lol, yeh its a hybrid, so FWD makes sense, but then again its a lexus, so RWD makes sense, lol but i guess if your in the market for a eco car, then you dont really care bout performance you'd have a IS-F for that, XD i mean, just buy a IS-F, and then a CT200H, so you can kinda "feel" better bout driving a 5.0 V8, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilv1004s Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 no other lexus hybrid has FWD let alone any Lexus still not likeing the Fwd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dis-lex-sic Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 It's a Hybrid la, no need for RWD...no need for HP or anything like that lol You obviously haven't driven a GS450h?? RWD and 260kw...but its the INSTANT torque that not even the GS460 can match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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